Just transition - how can theory become reality?

22 May 2025

VOICES Podcast

The climate transition is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to improve people’s lives: better jobs, housing, neighbourhoods are all possible. But poor transitions are driving a social backlash to climate action. 

The concept of ‘just transitions’ has never been so important. But are ‘just transitions’ doable? Where are they happening already? What advice is there for managers in business and government tasked with planning just transitions? 

In this episode, IHRB’s CEO, John Morrison, and colleague Haley St Dennis, discuss the state of just transitions in 2025, and the urgent need to tackle social, economic and environmental challenges as one, systemic challenge. John shares ideas for how to apply this thinking in practice. 

John has published a new book: The Just Transition: A Systems Thinking Approach to Managing Climate Action, in which he sets out a roadmap for managers to navigate the social and economic challenges of climate action.  


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Host: Deborah Sagoe, IHRB's Communications Coordinator
Producer & Editor: Helen Brown
Additional Contributors: Sam Simmons, IHRB's Head of Communications