Looking back, looking forward - lessons in human rights and business (Part 1)
28 October 2025
The business and human rights agenda is no longer the nascent field it was 20 years ago. Today the dominant conversation among companies globally is not why respect human rights but how it can be done in practice.
In a special two-part series of our Voices podcast, join IHRB’s new CEO, Brandee M. Butler, and outgoing CEO, John Morrison, for a reflective and illuminating conversation on their work to strengthen respect for human rights in the business world - and the lessons they’ve learned along the way.
In part one, find out more about the defining moments that have inspired Brandee and led her to IHRB. Hear John’s reflection on his past 16 years as founding CEO, and how business attitudes and practices towards human rights have changed in that time. You will also hear what makes Brandee and John perpetual optimists despite these challenging times for human rights.
Meet IHRB’s new CEO, Brandee M. Butler (Joining November 3rd)
Stream above, or you can listen on your favourite podcast player.
If you care about human rights and are curious about the impact of business on peoples’ rights, then follow Voices to get each episode straight to your feed.
Host: Deborah Sagoe, IHRB's Communications Coordinator
Producer & Editor: Helen Brown
Additional Contributors: Sam Simmons, IHRB's Head of Communications